Russians Remain Quiet over S-300 vs F-35 Duel

Will Israel test Russia before the 90-day training period for the Syrians is done?


…via Southfront

Written by Andrei Akulov; Originally appeared on

[ Editor’s Note: Israel has claimed that it will attack targets in Syria as it deems necessary. If the day ever comes when someone can do this to Israel, they might call it the Bibi Bombing Doctrine.

All Russia has said is that it intends to protect Russian forces, and train the Syrians to be combat effective with the S-300s which are not a major threat all by themselves. They have to be part of a fully integrated, total air superiority system.

That would involve the Russians having to disclose their best technology capability, which begs the question, do they want to reveal that when Russian forces are not being attacked, but say Iranians or Syrians.

Would the Russians hold back in revealing some of their best stuff, and let the Syrian missile command get hammered as a result? Nothing would be a bigger slap in the face to Russia than to have S-300 batteries destroyed by Israeli F-35 strikes, if that is possible.

The flip side to that scenario is that neither the US nor Israel would want to see F-35s being blasted out of the sky, or the PR boomerang that would ensue from that. So what we have here is a lot of shadow-boxing going on.

Will Israel test Russia before the 90-day training period for the Syrians is done? Would Russia not have trained Russians at the hands of all of those batteries so they could defend themselves with the multi-layered defense that is required?

We will not know the answers to these questions until Israel makes its next move, or a US pilot does flying an Israeli F-35, which would not be the first time that Americans flew Israeli combat missions.

Left out of the radar capabilities analysis below is that the top tier combat zone satellites can track a plane simply from the air turbulence wake it leaves, if the satellite is positioned correctly. This technology has been around for some time for those who can foot that hefty bill . . .  Jim W. Dean ]

Will the Israelis risk losing an F-35 to Russian missile defense?

– First published … October 10, 2018 –

How effective is the S-300 PMU-2 “Favorit” that Russia has just delivered to Syria? Especially when employed against the F-35 stealth fighters that Israel intends to make more use of when attacking targets in Syria? Who has the edge?

This is truly a hot topic for the press right now. It would be better, of course, to avoid the military hostilities and leave this as a theoretical, unanswered question, because no definite answer is possible until a real shootout takes place.

Stealth technology includes both active and passive measures that reduce visibility and the chance of detection. Some of those are classified, as are the specifications and capabilities of the S-300. This makes it much more complicated to offer predictions or conclusions. But the known facts can be considered impartially and objectively.

Israeli officials play down the significance of the shipment of the S-300 to Syrian government forces.

“The operational abilities of the air force are such that those (S-300) batteries really do not constrain the air force’s abilities to act,” said Tzachi Hanegbi, Israel’s regional cooperation minister.

“You know that we have stealth fighters, the best planes in the world. These batteries are not even able to detect them.” Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman said in April that “if anyone attacks us, we will retaliate, regardless of S-300, S-700 or any anything else’s presence there”. 

The Pentagon has also cast doubt on the S-300’s effectiveness.

Let’s give the devil his due. The F-35 is a fine example of low observable aircraft with extraordinary capabilities. It’s a formidable weapon, but so is the S-300. If the worst happens, Israel’s high-end F-35I Adir aircraft will be checkmated by this Russian-made, state-of-the-art air-defense system.

A stealth aircraft is not invincible. It has its strengths and weaknesses. In Syria, Israeli F-35s will be up against a tight, integrated air-defense network with multiple radars trying to detect and track the target from different directions.

Excessive use of stealth technology restricts the combat capabilities of an aircraft like the F-35. A plane based on stealth technology does not perform exceptionally well in combat. It cannot carry many weapons because everything is hidden inside the body. Its ability to remain invisible is reduced as soon as the radar is turned on. Low frequencies can detect a stealth aircraft. A bomb bay that has been opened to launch weapons will also give the plane away.

The S-300’s 48N6E2 missiles boast single-shot kill probability of 80% to 93% for an aerial target, 40% to 85% for cruise missiles. and 50% to 77% for theater ballistic missiles. The Russian system uses the 96L6 all-altitude detector and acquisition radar, which works in L-band. It has a 300 km range and enhanced resolution. The S-300 PMU-2 version can detect and track 100 targets. The radar is said to be able to detect stealth targets.

Large wavelength radiations are reflected by “invisible” aircraft. Radar that operates in the VHF, UHF, L and S bands can detect and even track the F-35 without transmitting weapons-quality track. It is true that no accurate targeting is possible, but at least you can tell where the plane is.

The S-300’s vertically launched missiles can be re-targeted during flight. The explosion is so powerful that no kinetic kill is needed. Multiple killing elements will strike targets throughout the vicinity.

The IAF F-35s still need to be integrated with other assets in order to enhance their chances of carrying out missions. Just to be on the safe side, they will probably be escorted by electronic warfare aircraft, which are not stealth, thus giving away their position and providing the enemy with enough time to take countermeasures.

Israel has only 12 F-35s, with 50 more arriving by 2024. The price tag for each is about $100 million. It’ll be a long time before they are in place and integrated into the Air Force. And twelve are simply not enough.

Besides, the aircraft still needs to be upgraded with the full operational capability of Block 3F and subsequent Block 4 software and hardware configurations.

Once the S-300s are operational, all other Israeli non-stealth planes will face huge risks any time they fly an offensive mission into Syria. It should also be taken into account that Russia will jam the radar, navigation, and communications systems on any aircraft attacking targets in Syria via the Mediterranean Sea, as Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu warned on Sept. 24, 2018.

Israel boasts a broad repertoire of standoff weapons, along with highly advanced electronic warfare systems and enhanced cyber capabilities. It also has very experienced and well trained personnel. Nevertheless, the S-300 in Syria is a deterrent to be reckoned with. Hopefully, the peace process in that war-torn country will move forward and there will be no escalation to provoke an S-300 vs. F-35 fight.

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Unholy alliance: Israel, apartheid South Africa and nukes

“We stand for Christian Nationalism which is an ally of National Socialism [Nazism],” John Vorster said in 1942. But when the South African Prime Minister visited the Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum in Israel on April 9, 1976, he laid a wreath and said a prayer in Afrikaans in memory of Nazi victims. It was an anomalous situation for the state of Israel, founded on socialist and communitarian values, and as refuge for victims of racial oppression, to have welcomed this top-level proponent of apartheid racism.

A rationale became clear earlier this month with the publication on May 25 of Sasha Polakow-Suransky’s book “Unspoken Alliance: Israel’s Secret Relationship with Apartheid South Africa.”

Chris McGreal, reporting for the UK Guardian, surveyed revelations in the book, written by a U.S. scholar and child of anti-apartheid South African exiles. Polakow-Suransky based his conclusions on interviews and on perusal of 700 declassified documents, released by the current South African government.

According to McGreal, the once secret papers provide “the first official documentary evidence of the [Israeli] state’s possession of nuclear weapons.”

The revelations came about just as United Nations discussions were beginning on nuclear non-proliferation, with a special focus on the Middle East. Israeli spokespersons have denied charges of Israeli nuclear cooperation with apartheid South Africa.

In his book’s preface, Polakow-Suransky provides an explanation for rapprochement, coming about after years of Israeli support for liberation struggles in Africa. “Material interests gave birth to an alliance that greatly benefited the Israeli economy and enhanced the security of South Africa’s white minority regime,” he writes. Ideology was operating too, he contends. Both the Israeli and apartheid state projected a racist image of a minority people “under siege.”

Israel was looking primarily for a reliable source of yellow cake uranium and, less crucially, for military weapons buyers. South African military leaders, seeking to develop missile capabilities, specifically with nuclear warheads, needed hardware and technical expertise.

South Africa’s offer to buy nuclear armed missiles from Israel, and Israeli officials’ willingness to sell, never resulted in actual transfer of nuclear material. Polakow-Suransky speculates that the South Africans had hopes of adapting their own nuclear weaponry to missile use, thereby saving money.

The main point, however, is that bilateral approval was secured for the deal, and it could have been consummated.

Interviewed by Amy Goodman on “Democracy Now,” the author discussed key documents. One describes Israeli and South African defense officials agreeing March 31, 1975, on the transfer of nuclear-armed Jericho missiles to South Africa. A document from later that day has one of South African military participants in the talks extolling to superiors the security benefits of nuclear armed missiles headed presumably to South Africa. Polakow-Suransky referred to another document from a few days later, the only one with signatures, demonstrating that the two countries’ defense ministers, Shimon Peres and P.W. Botha, had agreed on secrecy. Lastly, documents are presented showing South Africa interested in Israeli missiles, only if they were nuclear equipped.

Delving below the “tip of the iceberg,” Polakow-Suransky told Goodman,  “Throughout the late ’70s and the mid-1980s, these two countries were cooperating in South Africa on building missile technology that the South Africans intended to use for a second generation of their nuclear weapons.”

Another important revelation had to do with yellow cake uranium, which South African had supplied Israel since 1961. The two nations had agreed that South Africa was providing the material exclusively for domestic use. In 1976, South Africa Prime Minister Vorster instructed Minister of Mines Fanie Botha “to release the safeguards on the uranium,” freeing it up for nuclear weapons use.

Polakow-Suransky read from an interview with the now elderly Botha: “I didn’t sell it to them. I didn’t give it to them. But when I became minister, they had it. They couldn’t use it unless South Africa lifted them, the safeguards, so that’s what I did.”

Israel’s role as arms supplier to apartheid South Africa played out as the nation was becoming, as of three years ago, the world’s fourth largest arms purveyor, accounting for 10 percent of all arms exports.

From the 1960s on, weaponry buyers included notable human rights abusers, including the Pinochet and Somoza regimes in Chile and Nicaragua, along with El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras. Oil – rich Angola and Nigeria are Israel’s top African arms buyers now, with Kenya, worried about Somalia, getting in line this year.



W. T. Whitney Jr.
W. T. Whitney Jr.

W.T. Whitney Jr. grew up on a dairy farm in Vermont and now lives in rural Maine. He practiced and taught pediatrics for 35 years and long ago joined the Cuba solidarity movement, working with Let Cuba Live of Maine, Pastors for Peace, and the Venceremos Brigade. He writes on Latin America and health issues for the People’s World.

Russia More and More Hostile to Israel: Pulling the Teeth out of Israel´s Air Force, while the USA Demands “Another Syria”

This is anticipated Hegelian dialectics: Thesis  and antithesis. Guess what the synthesis will be.

Rev. 17: 3 “And I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: 5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH”.

Ezekiel 38:2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, 3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: 4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee. 7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.
8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them. 9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.
16 It shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land”.


DEBKAfile 29 Sept. 2018: At some point in the last 48 hours, the fallout from the Russian Il-20 plane downing has evolved into hostile steps by Moscow against Israel.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov announced on Friday, Sept. 28 that Russia had already handed over advanced S-300 missile defense systems to Syria.
Netanyahu responded to the Russian disclosure by calling the S-300 handover to Syria “irresponsible.”
Zionist Chabadnik Lubavitch Doomsday Prime Minister Netanyahu and his fellow-Chabadnik, King of Jews, Putin, and master of death and destructionwere such good friends until their secret Lubavitch playwrights  and here commanded them via the London City  to go to the final act of the play.

Henry Makow 1 Oct. 2018:  After WW1,Kuhn Loeb partner Otto Kahn explained that the Cabalist bankers “remake” the world by creating artificial conflicts and determining the outcome.These include the world wars, the Cold War, and  the phony “Left-Right” gridlock.

Mikhail Bogdanov, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister was referring to disparaging, possibly patronizing, remarks from Israel military sources when they disowned responsibility for the IL-20 crash. Indeed, the IDF’s response to the Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu’s warning of an electronic war was, “Our air force can handle their systems.”

Many Israelis used social media to pour contempt on Russia’s military capabilitiesThis attitude no doubt irked Moscow and contributed to its decision to ratchet up its military stance in Syria against Israel.

In addition to the S-300 and enhanced EW systems, the Russians are working overtime to install a new, short-range, Pechora M2 anti-missile system, for boosting the defenses of Damascus. Also known as Neva S-125, this weapon was upgraded in the last two years for intercepting low-flying aircraft, cruise missiles and combat helicopters, which manage to bypass the S-300 and S-400 missile belts protecting the Syrian capital.

For now, Russia is not only becoming increasingly obstructive, say DEBKAfile’s military and intelligence sources, but hostile: The new air defense and electronic warfare measures Moscow is delivering to Syria indicate that the Russian military is digging in for a war of attrition against Israel. Those systems may be followed by squadrons of advanced Russian warplanes.

Nevertheless, the Israel Air Force has carefully abstained from raids over Syria since the dispute with Moscow erupted over Il-20 spy plane disaster.


Israel Shamir , Global Res. 2018: (A Swedish-Russian Othodox Christian Jew living in Jaffa)
There was a lull when after the disaster of the downed plane.  And after that, unexpectedly, the Russian Defence Minister Mr Shoygu made his announcement. Russia responded adequately, closing the sky over Syria, or at least over Western Syria, and activating its powerful GPS-jamming system off the Syrian coast. Israel has lost its right to bomb Syria at will.

The first signal of something amiss was sent when the Russians refused to receive an Israeli high-level delegation in Moscow: Prime Minister Netanyahu and Defence Minister Lieberman.
Only a military delegation led by the Israel Air Force Commander Maj. Gen. Amikam Norkin was allowed to come and present their version. It was found wanting. The Russian Ministry of Defence produced ample evidence that the Israelis knowingly caused the loss of the plane with all handsNetanyahu had made a person-to-person call to President Putin, it was of no avail. And Russia then declared electronic war on Israel

Apparently Putin was upset on a personal level with the Israeli attack. Putin is known for hating betrayal. He considered Netanyahu to be almost a personal friend, and the downing of the plane by this erstwhile friend grieved him a lot, so people close to the Kremlin intuit.

At the same time, the ruling (Putin’s) party United Russia suffered humiliating defeats in governors’ elections. 70% to 30% the incumbents were voted out, and representatives of strongly anti-Western coalition of Nationalists and Communists conquered those three districts.

The army demanded a stronger response.
Putin is the most pro-Western ruler Russia is likely to have; his successor will probably be more rigid to Western demands, while pro-Western elements (“liberals”) have a snowball-in-hell chance to come to power in Russia via the election booth. That’s why Putin has to watch his step to keep in line with his base, as any ruler does. He didn’t want to spoil relations with Israel, but freedom of action had to be denied to the Israeli Air Force.

In Israel, there aren’t many people at the top, apart of Netanyahu and Lieberman, who cherish their country’s involvement with Russia. For Israelis, Putin is one of many unsavoury leaders from Idi Amin to Orban their country has to play ball with. Russia is not popular with ordinary Israelis who prefer America or Germany.

A lot of Israelis will be pleased with breakup of this connection. Immediately after the Russian decision had been announced, Haaretz had made its feelings clear: “In recent years, Russia has been caught lying or spreading disinformation about its role in a number of incidents, the most recent being its involvement in the U.S. presidential elections, the poisoning of the former Russian agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter in Britain, and the invasion of Crimea and eastern Ukraine. So it’s hard to believe that anyone but Syria and Iran will adopt the Russian version of last week’s events.” This is not a way one’s partner is usually described.

The S300 range can paralyze Israel´s airforce and cruise missiles in Israel – which Israel will have to act against.

Were the Israelis just careless and brutal, as is their wont? They didn’t give a damn about the Russians, and considered them a lesser breed, whose life is of little importance (goyim). This is a possible reading, quite consistent with their general attitude to strangers considered to be children of a lesser God.

On the other hand, it is possible that the whole Israeli raid had been staged to down the reconnaissance plane and to leave the Russians without its real-time intelligence data. In 1967, the Israelis bombed and sunk the USS Liberty, an electronic spy ship, the then equivalent of Il-20, for they did not want to have foreign eyes and ears in the area.

However, all is well that ends well. Russian decision to create practically a no-fly zone is a good decision, good for all. It is really good for Israel, as this naughty child, a spoiled brat, a darling of America, had to be forbidden to kill neighbours.

Will Tel-Aviv use this chance? The US will try to frustrate the Russian taming of Israel. John Bolton and Mike Pompeo already declared that no one may interfere with Israel’s divine right to freely bomb Syria.


Pres. Obama, who was so celebrated by the NWO, launched the Syrian war with outside forces, killing countless people with his/Israel´s children, ISIS and Al Qaeda  – as well as dispelling millions of refugees into all directions.

Now, the US and its henchmen are unbelievably brazenly  calling for a new constitution in the sovereign country, Syria, to make the country a US satellite!

Haaretz 1 Oct. 2018: Netanyahu’s UN Reveal Meant to ‘Justify Another Aggression’:

This is the NWO of the City of London through its military arm and Corporation, the USA.

DWN 30 Sept. 2018 : US Special Envoy for Syria, James Jeffrey, says: Our target is another Syria that neither threatens its population nor neighbors, does not use chemical weapons, displaces refugees and   people from its territory and does not give Iran a platform offering to use rockets against Israel. Another goal is to bring the perpetrators of war crimes to justice. Assad’s fate will be determined by the Syrians.

At the UN General Assembly meeting in New York, Germany, France, the United Kingdom, the United States, Egypt and Saudi Arabia issued a joint statement on 27 September 2018.
A message from the UK Press Office goes:

“We, the foreign ministers of Egypt, France, Germany, Jordan, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the United Kingdom and the United States of America, have made the following statement in support of the urgent convening of a constitutional committee to speed up the efforts of the UN Achieving a political solution to the conflict in Syria based on United Nations Security Council Resolution 2254 (…) There is no military solution to the war and no alternative to a political solution. We strongly affirm that those who seek a military solution can only increase the risk of dangerous escalation and further conflagration in the region and beyond.

To this end, we call on the United Nations and the Office of the Special Envoy for Syria to convene as soon as possible a credible, inclusive, constitutional committee to work on the drafting of a new Syrian constitution and the creation of a free and fair basis UN supervised elections in a safe and neutral environment in which all eligible Syrians – including those in the diaspora – have the right to participate. We call on the United Nations Special Envoy for Syria to report to the Security Council on its progress no later than 31 October. “

What a hypocrisy! The forces that now want to abolish Syria’s constitution and impose on the country a new constitution written by  Rothschilds Corporation USA, are the same forces that launched the Syrian War and formed, trained, financed, paid, and shattered ISIS and Al Qaeda so utterly destroying Syria! !

Now Israel (and thus its USA) are on a confrontational course with Russia. So far, it’s just a spectacle – but control can quickly be lost – or   confrontation commanded .

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